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Post by kekn Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:29 am

Alex, it's not really the fact that he uses alts that's the problem. Then our dear detective would be in serious trouble. The problem is the general attitude, and he has to understand that being rude, calling people names etc. etc. is NOT ok.

But I don't think we will get any further in this matter before he shows himself on the forum in this very thread. Making sanctions and criteria for unbans is completely useless if he never shows up, agreed? With such great friends as blackitt and Libertine, they will surely be able to guide him to the correct place. Is this acceptable?
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Post by (AJ)Deserter Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:20 am

Hello.. Spec told meto come and see this thread and I think I don't mind if you remove the ban as long as El_ombre_loco comes and says sorry for breaking your rules as himself.. He should not act this way in the future because it isnt nice to see ppl call you a bitch and etc. thanks.. Deserter

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Post by Spec Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:23 am

(To elaborate: I stumbled upon Deserter on the server just now, thought he should know about this and get the choice to explain his view on the situation)

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Post by Willow Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:28 am

I agree. I respect the way Blackitt and Libertine stick up for him, and if he comes on here to say he's sorry and he understands why he was banned I'll be glad to give him a second chance.
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Post by Frosty Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:31 am

You guys... xD... you guys are weak in the way of the admin... some of your are considering unbanning him? Some of the names/words he used would of offended alot of people, say if I was head admin, I would of just said that he should stay banned and locked the thread.

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Post by Spec Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:38 am

It is standard procedure to give anyone who appeals to a ban a second chance and has always been in the past. Even if he meant all the things he said: We're not to judge that. We're only to judge whether or not he is a threat to the quality of gameplay and communication on our server, and to judge that, I need to read what he thinks about this, then I'll decide whether or not I believe he regets it and wether or not I support his unban. I will not take this chance from him anyway.


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Post by Sir_Alexander Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:05 am

Also, if he were to be unbanned, he'd be under close watch of all the admins. If he says anything remotely offensive, not even necessarily in the league of his previous comments, BAN TIME!
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Post by Uruk34 Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:50 am

I have to say I'm with Frosty on this one. It's easy to use the language barrier as an excuse, and perhaps acceptable once or twice, but we can see that this guy repeatedly does this, and Snake says the logs Willow dredged up aren't even the worst. People have been banned for using one offensive remark in the past, this guy has repeatedly used them despite being warned. Moreover, surely if he speaks bad english, and is only on the server to train, it would have been better for him not to have spoken at all and concentrated on training...
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Post by BD_Baby_Wolf Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:13 am

I'd like to remind you that players who have been banned for racist remarks never were unbanned on ndition. Further more, there are many other duel servers to train on, so why bother us?
Ndition, as i see it, is a good place for nice people, please, lets keep it that way.
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Post by Frosty Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:26 am

If we unban him, we will get a bad name.

*NDITIONS... UNBANNING THE RACISTS*

I just don't see why he should be unbanned.

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Post by Spec Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:36 am

I'd like to remind you that players who have been banned for racist remarks never were unbanned on ndition.

Right, if that is the case, then I'm backing you up there.

He probably won't say anything about the matter anyway, so ya...

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Post by BD_Baby_Wolf Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:37 am

Frosty wrote:If we unban him, we will get a bad name.

*NDITIONS... UNBANNING THE RACISTS*

I just don't see why he should be unbanned.

Yap.... There were a couple of really good reasons to ban him, so there must be a reason to unban him.
And frankly, i don't see any good reason for that....
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Post by Snake Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:24 am

BD_Baby_Wolf wrote:
Frosty wrote:If we unban him, we will get a bad name.

*NDITIONS... UNBANNING THE RACISTS*

I just don't see why he should be unbanned.

Yap.... There were a couple of really good reasons to ban him, so there must be a reason to unban him.
And frankly, i don't see any good reason for that....

Omg he insulted me, I think that the biggest reason to not unban him Razz

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Post by Frosty Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:30 am

You guys don't take racism seriously -.- I'm out then.

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Post by BD_Baby_Wolf Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:36 am

But we do, Frosty, thats why we are so against his unban
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Post by Spec Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:38 am

We are taking it seriously, but that guy still has the right to appeal. No descision has been made, and I'm not gonna say "right, all forgotten" even if he writes something that seems honest.

And seeing how we did infact not unban people who have been racist in the past, that'll also have an effect on my descision. But I still want to hear both sides of the story anyway, no matter how clear the case seems. I'm trying to be neutral and objective, that's all.

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Post by BD_Baby_Wolf Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:44 am

This strangely reminds me of something.... I think, after this toppik is locked we'll have a new "epic member"....
Also the forum picture will have a new name on it... Wink
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Post by kekn Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:17 am

So this isn't the first case that someone appeal for an unban because they've been banned for racial remarks? I know it's a little away from topic, but I'd like to know what the cercumstances were on those and how you decided.
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Post by BD_Baby_Wolf Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:25 am

LOL.... I'm talking about the "free bjordhin" thing..
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Post by Spec Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:28 am

kekn wrote:So this isn't the first case that someone appeal for an unban because they've been banned for racial remarks? I know it's a little away from topic, but I'd like to know what the cercumstances were on those and how you decided.

Yep. Sadly the old forum and its contents are gone, right?

The reason I am generally pro-second chance is because of the unban of half the banned people that happened a while ago, regardless of why they were banned (except for Bjord, who by now is unbanned as well). So since everyone, including our forum meme, got a second chance, I assumed that this should always be the case - depending on whether or not I believe that that guy won't do it again, of course.

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Post by kekn Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:13 am

Heh, didn't quite get the hint, thanks for enlightening me Smile

I think the old forum is still there, but I'm too lazy to dig it up Razz
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Post by Frosty Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:33 am

The old posts were deleted... by... err someone

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